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Can someone please give me an overview of the design evolution of IWC's “Porsche Design,” wristwatches?
Did Porsche build or design any of the parts?
How many different models of PD chronographs were made?
What were the PD production numbers?
Are PD’s worth anything?
Are there any reports about the Porsche Design by IWC’s?
Any other comments or personal opinions?
Thanks!
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Last edited: 21 October, 2011 - 00:22
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Worthy of a chapter in a book
One of my projects for the first quarter of 2002 is to do an article on the Porsche Design watches by IWC. I apologize for not answering your numerous questions, but to do so thoroughly (and misinformation is a great disservice) requires significant research. Typically my articles take over 20 hours to prepare and the Porsche Design one will take more.
In general, IWC doesn't disclose production totals for 10 years, so that question can't be answered. IWC made the watches (not PD) although PD worked on design elements and IWC used outsourced (but enhanced) base movements.
Here's a quick run-down of all Porsche Design IWC models, with the first number being the reference number and the last number being the calibre (movement) number. I've listed the chronographs in bold; the ones with cal. 630 or 631 are meca-quartz. The Ref. 3701, 3702 and 3704 --which have mechanical movements-- can be valuable depending on condition and use early Valjoux 775x base movements.
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Hi Michael, a great idea to write an article. The PD'S are really worth an whole article. Some of them are great - and not to forget: The Porsche Titan Chrono was my first IWC (1981) and with that watch it all started..... Hans
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...you are writing History, take it slow
Aloha Michael, Thank you very much for your reply concerning the Porsche Designs. We look forward to your report on the brand. Please take your time, you are writing History.
Michael in your list most of the PD Chronograph’s are named Titan.
Do the numbers 01,02 etc. have some special significance with IWC?
What do the IWC terms Sportivo, Ultra and Meca mean?
You mention that the one’s which have “mechanical movements,” may eventually be valuable. I guess this is because 200 years from now they will still be keeping time within tolerances, where the rest will probably need primitive 20th century batteries.
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Last edited: 21 October, 2011 - 00:22
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thanks; a few additional responses....
Actually the word Titan, while used in the name, refers to the material used in the watch --titanium as we would say in English. When IWC produced these watches in titanium, it was considered ground-breaking and the first successful series production of watches using this special (and difficult to work with) material.
The names Sportivo and Ultra are really just model names. However, Meca refers to the meca-quartz movement, which is a quartz base with a partially mechnical chronograph (and of extraordinarily high quality).
It seems like the photo to which you've provided the link is a Sportivo chrono with a mecquartz movement (the date at 5 on a slant is the clue), in gold/steel.
When I was referring to the collectibility of the all-mechnical chronographs, I'm not sure if that's because of their function 200 years from now. The Cal. 630 and 631 meca-quartz movements are excellent, but mechnical is more "in" today. Besides, the first PD chornograph models with titanium arguably have some importance, historically and in terms of classic styling. But one might be talking about 1500-2000 USD today for one, which may not be a huge premium.
Did Porsche build or design any of the parts?
How many different models of PD chronographs were made?
What were the PD production numbers?
Are PD’s worth anything?
Are there any reports about the Porsche Design by IWC’s?
Any other comments or personal opinions?
Thanks!
The driver smiled when he lost the car in pursuit.
Last edited: 21 October, 2011 - 00:22
One of my projects for the first quarter of 2002 is to do an article on the Porsche Design watches by IWC. I apologize for not answering your numerous questions, but to do so thoroughly (and misinformation is a great disservice) requires significant research. Typically my articles take over 20 hours to prepare and the Porsche Design one will take more.
In general, IWC doesn't disclose production totals for 10 years, so that question can't be answered. IWC made the watches (not PD) although PD worked on design elements and IWC used outsourced (but enhanced) base movements.
Here's a quick run-down of all Porsche Design IWC models, with the first number being the reference number and the last number being the calibre (movement) number. I've listed the chronographs in bold; the ones with cal. 630 or 631 are meca-quartz. The Ref. 3701, 3702 and 3704 --which have mechanical movements-- can be valuable depending on condition and use early Valjoux 775x base movements.
3314 Taucheruhr OCEAN 2000 cal.2250
3317 SL-Design cal. 2250
3318 SL-Design 2250
3319 Taucheruhr OCEAN 2000 cal. 2250
3320 Sportivo 02 cal. 2250
3330 Ultra Sportivo cal. 2210
3335 Ultra Sportivo cal. 2210
3336 Ultra Sportivo cal. 2210
3430 Ultra Sportivo Kalendarium cal. 605.444
3503 Taucheruhr OCEAN 500 cal. 37522
3504 Taucheruhr OCEAN 2000 cal. 37521
3509 Taucheruhr OCEAN 2000 cal. 37521
3511 Kompassuhr titanium cal. 37523
3519 Taucheruhr OCEAN 2000 cal. 37521
3520 Titan automatic cal. 37524
3523 Taucheruhr OCEAN 500 cal. 35722
3524 Taucheruhr OCEAN 2000 cal. 37521
3529 Taucheruhr OCEAN 2000 cal. 37521
3551 Kompassuhr mit Mondphase cal. 37542
3701 Chronograph 02 cal. 790
3702 Titan Chronograph 01 cal. 790
3704 Titan Chronograph 01 cal. 7912
3720 Sportivo 02 Chronograph cal. 631
3732 Titan Chronograph 01 cal. 631
3738 Titan Chronograph 01cal. 631
3742 Titan Chronograph 01 cal. 630
3743 Titan Chronograph 01 cal. 631
3745 Titan Chronograph 03 cal. 630
3748 Titan Chronograph 03 cal. 630
3821 Reiseuhr cal. 643
3822 Reiseuhr cal.643
4417 SL-Design Automatic cal.480
4517 SL-Design cal. 2249
4520 Lady Titan cal.2209
4530 Ultra Sportivo cal.2209
9635 Ultra Sportivo cal. 2210
Regards,
Michael
Hi Michael,
a great idea to write an article. The PD'S are really worth an whole article. Some of them are great - and not to forget: The Porsche Titan Chrono was my first IWC (1981) and with that watch it all started.....
Hans
... if you want to write me a PM:
IWC_Fan@gmx.de
Last edited: 24 April, 2013 - 04:42
Aloha Michael,
Thank you very much for your reply concerning the Porsche Designs. We look forward to your report on the brand. Please take your time, you are writing History.
Michael in your list most of the PD Chronograph’s are named Titan.
Do the numbers 01,02 etc. have some special significance with IWC?
What do the IWC terms Sportivo, Ultra and Meca mean?
You mention that the one’s which have “mechanical movements,” may eventually be valuable. I guess this is because 200 years from now they will still be keeping time within tolerances, where the rest will probably need primitive 20th century batteries.
Dr Jan Pitts
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The driver smiled when he lost the car in pursuit.
Last edited: 21 October, 2011 - 00:22
Actually the word Titan, while used in the name, refers to the material used in the watch --titanium as we would say in English. When IWC produced these watches in titanium, it was considered ground-breaking and the first successful series production of watches using this special (and difficult to work with) material.
The names Sportivo and Ultra are really just model names. However, Meca refers to the meca-quartz movement, which is a quartz base with a partially mechnical chronograph (and of extraordinarily high quality).
It seems like the photo to which you've provided the link is a Sportivo chrono with a mecquartz movement (the date at 5 on a slant is the clue), in gold/steel.
When I was referring to the collectibility of the all-mechnical chronographs, I'm not sure if that's because of their function 200 years from now. The Cal. 630 and 631 meca-quartz movements are excellent, but mechnical is more "in" today. Besides, the first PD chornograph models with titanium arguably have some importance, historically and in terms of classic styling. But one might be talking about 1500-2000 USD today for one, which may not be a huge premium.
Regards,
Michael
Hello Michael,
I am pleased to hear you are going forward with an article about this generation of IWC history....But don't forget the 3510
(al. cased first generations compasswatch)
;-) -Drew