554 Discussions and CommentsMember since Sept. 22, 2001
Thank you and I think..
Dear Mr.MF Thank you for reply. To my opinion, Mr.Pellaton desgined very traditional movement like Cal.89 and Cal85**. but He also introduced new technology like 1)Original Automatic-winding system 2)Adjusting cams on the rim of balance wheel. 3)Indirect center seconds etc...
By reading your opinion,I think using the flat type spring was his new chrange.
By the way,We discuss about old IWC watches on(by?) Japanese forum. and Your infromations and pictures...etc are very useful and helpful for our understanding. and new IWC fans increase by reading our discussion. I hope every IWC's keeping good time.
28 Discussions and CommentsMember since Oct. 18, 2001
Exception: Cal. 983
Dear Michael Let me point out one Exception at the pocket-watch movements: It's the calibre 983 which has been created during their main crisis - featuring flat hairspring and KIF-Spirofin regulating system as well known at the 889-family. To seperate this 983 from all others - the movement has been rose-gold plated. As far as I know this movement must be one of the rarest IWC-PW-movements due to very small production. regards Richard
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1,096 Discussions and CommentsMember since March 28, 2001
C.983 ??????
Dear Richard
This is really a very interesting fact. I never heard of such a movement! This brings up a lot of questions... Was it an official movement, or just a prototye serie? Are this movements "just" watchmaker school final test pieces ? Do you have any pictures of it ?
Many many thanks, really interesting.
Ralph
There is no time in the now it's time for a watch.
28 Discussions and CommentsMember since Oct. 18, 2001
Re: Cal. 983
Hi Ralph As far as I know and could see at the books when I have been with IWC (long time ago ;-) - they made at least 100 of them. The 983 has been a "cheap" version of the 982 with the same bridges and "cotes de geneve" - the balance has been a non-screwed one with flat haispring and KIF-Spirofin regulator instead of the original design. Unfortunatly I don't have pics - the movement itself has been rose-gold-plated. According to Jürgen King - the development manager at this time - those movements have been sold at the "crisis"-time to german watch companies to produced this typical kind of german "hunters"-pocketwatches. Unfortunatly I don't know the brand names anymore - but at this time I never heard before! I guess there have been watches around - not only protos of movements - which allways have been stored very carefully at IWC. (as f.i. the cal. 1000 and 1001 which are still "around" at shaffhouse). Maybe those movements have been modified with original parts afterwards, at third parties, who used them sometimes for engraved and skeleton watches as "Comor" or "Schaffo". Everything is possible! regards Richard
Dear Mr.MF
Thank you for reply.
To my opinion,
Mr.Pellaton desgined very traditional movement like Cal.89 and Cal85**.
but He also introduced new technology like
1)Original Automatic-winding system
2)Adjusting cams on the rim of balance wheel.
3)Indirect center seconds
etc...
By reading your opinion,I think using the flat type spring was his new chrange.
By the way,We discuss about old IWC watches on(by?) Japanese forum.
and Your infromations and pictures...etc are very useful and helpful for our understanding.
and new IWC fans increase by reading our discussion.
I hope every IWC's keeping good time.
Thank you for your reading and excuse my English
SATOURU YOSHIDA from Japan
very good...Please help me with Japanese! This way, I can surprise my friend from Yokohama, who's the chairman of a large shipping company.
Dear Michael
Let me point out one Exception at the pocket-watch movements: It's the calibre 983 which has been created during their main crisis - featuring flat hairspring and KIF-Spirofin regulating system as well known at the 889-family. To seperate this 983 from all others - the movement has been rose-gold plated. As far as I know this movement must be one of the rarest IWC-PW-movements due to very small production.
regards Richard
Dear Richard
This is really a very interesting fact. I never heard of such a movement!
This brings up a lot of questions...
Was it an official movement, or just a prototye serie?
Are this movements "just" watchmaker school final test pieces ?
Do you have any pictures of it ?
Many many thanks, really interesting.
Ralph
There is no time in the now it's time for a watch.
Last edited: 7 September, 2012 - 23:25
Hi Ralph
As far as I know and could see at the books when I have been with IWC (long time ago ;-) - they made at least 100 of them. The 983 has been a "cheap" version of the 982 with the same bridges and "cotes de geneve" - the balance has been a non-screwed one with flat haispring and KIF-Spirofin regulator instead of the original design. Unfortunatly I don't have pics - the movement itself has been rose-gold-plated. According to Jürgen King - the development manager at this time - those movements have been sold at the "crisis"-time to german watch companies to produced this typical kind of german "hunters"-pocketwatches. Unfortunatly I don't know the brand names anymore - but at this time I never heard before! I guess there have been watches around - not only protos of movements - which allways have been stored very carefully at IWC. (as f.i. the cal. 1000 and 1001 which are still "around" at shaffhouse). Maybe those movements have been modified with original parts afterwards, at third parties, who used them sometimes for engraved and skeleton watches as "Comor" or "Schaffo". Everything is possible!
regards
Richard
There is no time in the now it's time for a watch.
Last edited: 7 September, 2012 - 23:25