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Isobars Wrote:With Thanks from Isobars.
Hi,
Hope this helps...
"An exact total of 1200 such movements [Cal 52 S.C] were manufactured and bore the serial numbers 1013801 to 1015000. 1000 of these were delivered to the German Luftwaffe using a recipient named "Siegfried Heindorf" in Berlin as watches. The first batch consisted of watches were equipped with a cylindrical crown and the later batch had the conical crowns that we associate so strongly with today as a design cue.
The remaining 200 Cal 52 S.C. movements were delivered and used as deck watches by the British Royal Navy."
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MF Wrote:Tony/iso
This information was first published here, and is buried I'm sure in our archives. Either Koenig or earlyiwc originally wrote this.
I do recall that the Luftwaffe Großefliegeruhr (Ref. 431) production numbers and movement (Cal. 52T 19 H6 S.C.) were discussed in the forum on more than one occasion, but my searches did not bear any results. I guess I still have to learn how to search the archives in the new forum format.
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Isobars Wrote:Hi Tony,
Thanks, but I meant, how many are known today. -- Cheers from Isobars.
That is an excellent question, not only for the Ref. 431 but also for the Ref. 325, the Mark 11 and the W.W.W. I believe, however, that such data can only be found at Schaffhausen . Only IWC is in a position of knowing how many of those watches are still extant, and only if someone there has been keeping records of the watches arriving for service or the Stammbuchauszug . Several Ref. 431s may have been lost during WWII, and many Mark 11s and W.W.W. may have been lost due to the excessive wear and tear of military usage.
Regarding the Ref 325, I know of one with cal 74, that has been "lost". I've heard that it was "re-engined" with a cal. 98 from a pocket watch, and re-entered the market. Caveat Emptor. Of the known 674 Ref 325 manufactured, there are no more than 673 out there. It would also be very interesting to know how many of the 590 Ref 325s Portugiesers manufactured between 1939 and 1958 were actually sold to Portugal.
Hi,
Hope this helps...
"An exact total of 1200 such movements [Cal 52 S.C] were manufactured and bore the serial numbers 1013801 to 1015000. 1000 of these were delivered to the German Luftwaffe using a recipient named "Siegfried Heindorf" in Berlin as watches. The first batch consisted of watches were equipped with a cylindrical crown and the later batch had the conical crowns that we associate so strongly with today as a design cue.
The remaining 200 Cal 52 S.C. movements were delivered and used as deck watches by the British Royal Navy."
Regards,
Clepsydra
clepsydra
ad fontes...
Last edited: 30 October, 2011 - 22:05
This information was first published here, and is buried I'm sure in our archives. Either Koenig or earlyiwc originally wrote this.
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com
Last edited: 5 April, 2012 - 19:53
I do recall that the Luftwaffe Großefliegeruhr (Ref. 431) production numbers and movement (Cal. 52T 19 H6 S.C.) were discussed in the forum on more than one occasion, but my searches did not bear any results. I guess I still have to learn how to search the archives in the new forum format.
clepsydra
ad fontes...
Last edited: 30 October, 2011 - 22:05
Thanks, but I meant, how many are known today.
--
Cheers from Isobars.
--
Best from Isobars.
That is an excellent question, not only for the Ref. 431 but also for the Ref. 325, the Mark 11 and the W.W.W. I believe, however, that such data can only be found at Schaffhausen . Only IWC is in a position of knowing how many of those watches are still extant, and only if someone there has been keeping records of the watches arriving for service or the Stammbuchauszug . Several Ref. 431s may have been lost during WWII, and many Mark 11s and W.W.W. may have been lost due to the excessive wear and tear of military usage.
Regarding the Ref 325, I know of one with cal 74, that has been "lost". I've heard that it was "re-engined" with a cal. 98 from a pocket watch, and re-entered the market. Caveat Emptor. Of the known 674 Ref 325 manufactured, there are no more than 673 out there.
It would also be very interesting to know how many of the 590 Ref 325s Portugiesers manufactured between 1939 and 1958 were actually sold to Portugal.
Regards,
Clepsydra
clepsydra
ad fontes...
Last edited: 30 October, 2011 - 22:05