3 Discussions and CommentsMember since Nov. 24, 2010
I always wanted to have a golden savonette pocket watch and apparently is saw a really good example at a local dealer.
Now as i never owned a IWC pocket watch before I would like to inform myself so i can make the right decision.
Now here are the facts:
- ca. 50mm diameter - ca. 95g weight - 14k Gold - movement is a Sav. calibre 53 19lig. H 6, dating from the year 1911 - movement still works and has the stamp "probus IWC scarfusia" - dail has no cracks and does have arabic numbers - hands are gold colored - case has no bents or scratches and was produced arround 1912 - the inner metal movement case has an engraving regarding the medals won at the "Grand Prix Milan 1906" and is made of some metal, it is probably not made of gold as it does not have a stamp - all the cover plates do have the case number and the stamp "probus IWC scarfusia" - the front and back cover plates do have the 14k stamp - no case for the pocket watch - no papers - no information regarding the last revision done by IWC
Now my questions are: - Is there anything special I have to look for? - What is a reasonable price for such an watch? - Do I have to worry about spare parts for the movement, if it once has to be serviced? - Is it normal that the inner movement case has such an engraving and that this cover is not made of gold?
Thank you very much for your thoughts? Best Regards
1. Is the dial signed "international Watch Co.". --at least that's important to me 2. How are the hinges? 3. Does the watch keep reasonable time? 4. Did the dealer service it or, if not, when was it last serviced? 5. Is there any guarantee?
Calibre 53s are relatively common and don't command that much (usually under 1000 USD, sometimes more with a strong gold content due to gold pricing). The problem is that repairs can be expensive, sometimes exceeding the cost of the watch.
3 Discussions and CommentsMember since Nov. 24, 2010
Thank you for your input!
ad 1: Yes the dial bears the "International Watch Co" lettering 2: the hinges are in perfect condition 3: no info regarding how it keeps time, it is sold as functioning; the movement looks very clean and all the screw heads are looking like they have never been mistreated 4: no information regarding service, but in the back cover plate are 3 very small engravings, hope I read them correct "H160438", "PTL/or/PT/or/PL15333", "52862" 5: Yes you get implied warranty for 2 years
I think this example of an IWC Savonette pocket watch is very good for it's age, so I will go and get it today :-) !
3 Discussions and CommentsMember since Nov. 24, 2010
Now I decided to get this time piece as I really like the look and the feel of this wonderful watch! Okay now here we go! Hope the photos are good enough!
with one of my fountain pens
The accuracy of the watch is amazing giving it's age and I am really impressed by it's performance. But I will nevertheless send it next year to Schaffhausen so the movement receives a revision as next year the watch will celebrate it's 100th "birthday".
Best Regards!
PS: well I think in the near future I will have to acquire a Lepine pocket watch :-) !
2,626 Discussions and CommentsMember since Sept. 20, 2007
Nice - and it will be even nicer when it returns from Scaffhausen !
Be careful A1010 - you embark on a "catching" journey......here's looking to a before and after posting of this watch when it comes back from IWC - but may also to your posting of your "new" lepine!
Now as i never owned a IWC pocket watch before I would like to inform myself so i can make the right decision.
Now here are the facts:
- ca. 50mm diameter
- ca. 95g weight
- 14k Gold
- movement is a Sav. calibre 53 19lig. H 6, dating from the year 1911
- movement still works and has the stamp "probus IWC scarfusia"
- dail has no cracks and does have arabic numbers
- hands are gold colored
- case has no bents or scratches and was produced arround 1912
- the inner metal movement case has an engraving regarding the medals won at the "Grand Prix Milan 1906" and is made of some metal, it is probably not made of gold as it does not have a stamp
- all the cover plates do have the case number and the stamp "probus IWC scarfusia"
- the front and back cover plates do have the 14k stamp
- no case for the pocket watch
- no papers
- no information regarding the last revision done by IWC
Now my questions are:
- Is there anything special I have to look for?
- What is a reasonable price for such an watch?
- Do I have to worry about spare parts for the movement, if it once has to be serviced?
- Is it normal that the inner movement case has such an engraving and that this cover is not made of gold?
Thank you very much for your thoughts?
Best Regards
The questions I have are:
1. Is the dial signed "international Watch Co.". --at least that's important to me
2. How are the hinges?
3. Does the watch keep reasonable time?
4. Did the dealer service it or, if not, when was it last serviced?
5. Is there any guarantee?
Calibre 53s are relatively common and don't command that much (usually under 1000 USD, sometimes more with a strong gold content due to gold pricing). The problem is that repairs can be expensive, sometimes exceeding the cost of the watch.
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com
Last edited: 5 April, 2012 - 19:53
ad 1: Yes the dial bears the "International Watch Co" lettering
2: the hinges are in perfect condition
3: no info regarding how it keeps time, it is sold as functioning; the movement looks very clean and all the screw heads are looking like they have never been mistreated
4: no information regarding service, but in the back cover plate are 3 very small engravings, hope I read them correct "H160438", "PTL/or/PT/or/PL15333", "52862"
5: Yes you get implied warranty for 2 years
I think this example of an IWC Savonette pocket watch is very good for it's age, so I will go and get it today :-) !
Best Regards
Last edited: 27 November, 2010 - 18:18
P.S. One caveat: this can be habit-forming.
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com
Last edited: 5 April, 2012 - 19:53
Okay now here we go! Hope the photos are good enough!
with one of my fountain pens
The accuracy of the watch is amazing giving it's age and I am really impressed by it's performance. But I will nevertheless send it next year to Schaffhausen so the movement receives a revision as next year the watch will celebrate it's 100th "birthday".
Best Regards!
PS: well I think in the near future I will have to acquire a Lepine pocket watch :-) !
Last edited: 29 November, 2010 - 22:50
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Isobars.
A nice lepine? I like the kriegsmarine!
Congratulations on your savonette!
Regards,
Roberto
Last edited: 11 January, 2013 - 11:07
Be careful A1010 - you embark on a "catching" journey......here's looking to a before and after posting of this watch when it comes back from IWC - but may also to your posting of your "new" lepine!
Best regards
Mark
Last edited: 16 April, 2013 - 00:36