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"This man is dangerous. He winds his watch by hand." - from IWC Ads 70's
Hans Goerter Wrote in reply to:Matteo Mazzini Wrote:......Find a watch with a bit of “horological” value in terms of R&D, innovation, uniqueness, etc. without having to apply for a bank loan...is getting almost impossible......Did you know that nearly every Porsche has a Japanese gearbox?That what you want is nearly impossible in the world today!
Matteo Mazzini Wrote:......Find a watch with a bit of “horological” value in terms of R&D, innovation, uniqueness, etc. without having to apply for a bank loan...is getting almost impossible......
Matteo Mazzini Wrote:Hello Everybodyi was going through some old writings of mine when I stumbled on this post which I still find very interesting. I read through the first reply from Michael to my original post where he mentioned Patek and its use of Lemania (3rd party) chronograph movement. I just think that Patek Lemania-based chrono are top class. The Patek 5070 is an icon. The Lemania manual wind chrono, with its column wheel, it's 18,000 v/h speed, is just a marvel. It got everything. Tradition and that kind of special allure. I wouldn't put it in the same league or any close to a Valjoux 7750. Frankly speaking, I would be really happy to have a vintage ebache in my Portuguese Chrono instead of a Valjoux 7750. But here we go again with the "money" issue... Anyway, just a thought, because i believe that the use of ebache from Patek is a bit of a different category compared to IWC. It is, I guess, a comparing apple and orange to compare IWC use of ETA movement with Patek approach to Lemania's movement, isn't it? Many on the WEB bring up this comparison. I think it is not just a matter of in-house or not-in-house. I would go forward and say that also the quality of the movement matters. A Venus rattrapante might be not in house, but a watch with that beast inside would be top-top class. So probably with the ETA/SELLITA stuff, it's just a matter of a cheap solution which is a bit of a peaty. BTW, IWC Portuguese chrono is a marvel, best looking chrono out there IMHO, and what IWC does to the Valjoux is great. Just still plenty of steps down compared to a Patek Lemania... CheersMatteo
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MikeAye, Mateys! Me thinks it's time!
Gron Wrote:Hi Mike,So if I get you right ETA produces individually for different companies. Means the IWC specific ones you will not find in any other watch than an IWC. Which would be nice, because it´s an outsourced Homemade then (in my eyes).I would love to see photos from an "old" and "new" movement,maybe i have to change my life and become a watchmaker ;)- a new challenge to get those pictures.thank you very much for your input,André