2,996 Discussions and CommentsMember since April 2, 2011Hong Kong,
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I second the comments by the gentleman immediate above, and would only add: ".... a non-IWC may necessitate other changes that further detract from the integrity of the entire watch, and may also as well cost an arm and leg". this has certainly happened to a 'restored' pocket watch which included a new dial.
Regards, Shing | email iwcforme1976 (at) gmail (dot) com time does not change us. it just unfolds us. max frisch. all that really belongs to us is time; even he who has nothing else has that. baltasar gracian.
32 Discussions and CommentsMember since Jan. 19, 2011
I'm having a hard time believing that you have all these nice watches and even though this is your favorite, you are willing to destroy it? Forget about the value, you say you are worried that it just doesn't look right after a repair; but you are willing to change the look entirely? That just doesn't sound right? Now if you said that you had a replica and needed a dial but couldn't send it back to IWC, then your story would at least be believable. I am calling BS on this one!
Your post assumes that everyone who owns an IWC is going to be willing to spend a very large quantity of money on a new dial. I am not willing to "destroy" it, that's an emotional bit of rhetoric on your part that doesn't correspond very closely to real life. To be frank I just can't afford to spend what I suspect will be hundreds of pounds on a cosmetic repair. A third party dial, while a modification I would greatly prefer not to have made, will be preferable to the current dial which I just can't live with. It will still be the same watch, albeit a modded watch.
Here's a macro shot of my Mk XII immediately following its accident. As you can see, it isn't a replica.
1,592 Discussions and CommentsMember since May 16, 2002
If you post your email address then you might find you will receive emails offering to give it a good home and some much needed TLC from IWC.
Mechanical watches need TLC and that means being stripped down cleaned worn parts replaced lubricant assembled tested adjusted tested sealed polished and all done by someone who has an aptitude and the know how. All that does not come cheap. You seem to think it's just a question of a new dial for a fiver from the back of a cupboard, allow another £15 for removing and replacing the dial and say a fiver for postage and packing and all done for less than 50 pounds. In your dreams.
No, it's time to post your email address and absolve yourself of the responsibility of decent watches
934 Discussions and CommentsMember since Jan. 8, 2011
lonegroover Wrote:Well Soulman,
Your post assumes that everyone who owns an IWC is going to be willing to spend a very large quantity of money on a new dial. I am not willing to "destroy" it, that's an emotional bit of rhetoric on your part that doesn't correspond very closely to real life. To be frank I just can't afford to spend what I suspect will be hundreds of pounds on a cosmetic repair. A third party dial, while a modification I would greatly prefer not to have made, will be preferable to the current dial which I just can't live with. It will still be the same watch, albeit a modded watch.
Here's a macro shot of my Mk XII immediately following its accident. As you can see, it isn't a replica.
Lonegroover,
Have it sent to IWC and they will provide you with an estimate of what they feel needs to be done to bring it back to perfection. You will have a choice of any or all of the recommendations or to decline all together should you choose. This will allow you to control the final cost of repair.
From your pic, it may just be a "dial repair" rather than a full dial replacement.
Greg Chalk Wrote:If you post your email address then you might find you will receive emails offering to give it a good home and some much needed TLC from IWC.
Mechanical watches need TLC and that means being stripped down cleaned worn parts replaced lubricant assembled tested adjusted tested sealed polished and all done by someone who has an aptitude and the know how. All that does not come cheap. You seem to think it's just a question of a new dial for a fiver from the back of a cupboard, allow another £15 for removing and replacing the dial and say a fiver for postage and packing and all done for less than 50 pounds. In your dreams.
These are your dreams, not mine. I haven't implied any such thing. In fact I've had my Rolex GMT returned from service only last week so I barely need advice from you about the cost of maintaining mechanical watches - and I can assure you that even having a third party dial fitted will cost a fair more than you imagine.
This seems to be a surprisingly hard idea for some to grasp, but not everyone who buys an IWC - and I have three; a Gadebusch XV, a XII and a 3521 Ingenieur - is necessarily going to be prepared to have it maintained in original condition irrespective of cost when it suffers a repair.
My Mk XII does not happen to need to have worn parts replaced, new seals, to be adjusted, tested, polished or any of the many services I'm sure IWC would be delighted to charge me for. It just needs a new dial. Now - either that's going to be too expensive, or it isn't. If I consider that I can't afford it, then it'll be getting an aftermarket dial of some sort, I'm afraid. Apologies if this has gone over anyone's head.
670 Discussions and CommentsMember since Sept. 13, 2002
Hello Mr. Groovey...I'm sure if you started asking around you would soon discover somebody either in the trade or around the periphery that could 're-do' the triangle plot with a mix of the correct lume and some liquid mask or somesuch (i'm presuming here it is'nt Tritium-i'm not familiar with the model)and that way you get to keep the original dial and not have the watch away from you for a length of time.
Regards, Shing | email iwcforme1976 (at) gmail (dot) com
time does not change us. it just unfolds us. max frisch.
all that really belongs to us is time; even he who has nothing else has that. baltasar gracian.
Last edited: 8 December, 2012 - 16:07
Your post assumes that everyone who owns an IWC is going to be willing to spend a very large quantity of money on a new dial. I am not willing to "destroy" it, that's an emotional bit of rhetoric on your part that doesn't correspond very closely to real life. To be frank I just can't afford to spend what I suspect will be hundreds of pounds on a cosmetic repair. A third party dial, while a modification I would greatly prefer not to have made, will be preferable to the current dial which I just can't live with. It will still be the same watch, albeit a modded watch.
Here's a macro shot of my Mk XII immediately following its accident. As you can see, it isn't a replica.
Mechanical watches need TLC and that means being stripped down cleaned worn parts replaced lubricant assembled tested adjusted tested sealed polished and all done by someone who has an aptitude and the know how. All that does not come cheap. You seem to think it's just a question of a new dial for a fiver from the back of a cupboard, allow another £15 for removing and replacing the dial and say a fiver for postage and packing and all done for less than 50 pounds. In your dreams.
No, it's time to post your email address and absolve yourself of the responsibility of decent watches
Cheers Greg Chalk
Cvanwhite at aol dot com
Last edited: 21 February, 2013 - 13:47
Lonegroover,
Have it sent to IWC and they will provide you with an estimate of what they feel needs to be done to bring it back to perfection. You will have a choice of any or all of the recommendations or to decline all together should you choose. This will allow you to control the final cost of repair.
From your pic, it may just be a "dial repair" rather than a full dial replacement.
Last edited: 1 October, 2012 - 09:55
Alas I fear the happy endind we all desire is just aspiration that will not materialise,its a sad day for IWC.
rgds Pete
It's a shame that some people are penny wise but pound foolish!
Best of luck to those who are interested!
Cheers Greg Chalk
Cvanwhite at aol dot com
Last edited: 21 February, 2013 - 13:47
These are your dreams, not mine. I haven't implied any such thing. In fact I've had my Rolex GMT returned from service only last week so I barely need advice from you about the cost of maintaining mechanical watches - and I can assure you that even having a third party dial fitted will cost a fair more than you imagine.
This seems to be a surprisingly hard idea for some to grasp, but not everyone who buys an IWC - and I have three; a Gadebusch XV, a XII and a 3521 Ingenieur - is necessarily going to be prepared to have it maintained in original condition irrespective of cost when it suffers a repair.
My Mk XII does not happen to need to have worn parts replaced, new seals, to be adjusted, tested, polished or any of the many services I'm sure IWC would be delighted to charge me for. It just needs a new dial. Now - either that's going to be too expensive, or it isn't. If I consider that I can't afford it, then it'll be getting an aftermarket dial of some sort, I'm afraid. Apologies if this has gone over anyone's head.
Hello Mr. Groovey...I'm sure if you started asking around you would soon discover somebody either in the trade or around the periphery that could 're-do' the triangle plot with a mix of the correct lume and some liquid mask or somesuch (i'm presuming here it is'nt Tritium-i'm not familiar with the model)and that way you get to keep the original dial and not have the watch away from you for a length of time.