Michael Friedberg Wrote:Just a technical note....these watches really don't have an original Jones calibre.IWC's pocket watches, which probably don't amount to 50/year in sales, are essentially "new old stock" with Calibre 982x or 972x movements in them. These were the pocket watch movements IWC used starting if I recall in the late 1930s, and continuously thereafter for IWC pocket watches (and also the Jubilee Portugieser from 1993).When IWC decided to have the F.A. Jones Portugieser watches around 6 years agoi, they took new calibre 98 movements, and redesigned them to look like the 19th century Jones movements by (a) creating a 3/4 plate cover, (b) decorating it like some 19th century watches and (c) using a "Jones arrow" regulator. This redesigned movement is also part of the Calibre 98xxx family and used as the primary manual wind movement in IWC watches. Peoiple sometimes call it a Jones movement but it really is not the movements used in the 19th century in any way.The movement in today's pocket watches is not the "new" Jones movement nor one like those used in the 1870s in real Jones pocket watches. It's what a sales clerk who doesn't understand IWC's history or movements might say.
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Michael Friedberg Wrote:I just learned that another forum member owns number 33!Being out of town, he can't send a photo right now but adds that the watch is well documented in the Meis book on page 83 and in the Toelke/King book on page 226.I now need to find 44!
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The UK Greg Wrote:MF wants to find 44, thought he'd be even more keen to find 11. LOL!! Keep searching. Seriously, is it possible to ascertain which country would have had these early numbers, Michael?
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8541 Wrote:Actually, my own experience with watch locations and original sale points - seems to indicate that IWC watches certainly had a knack to travel far and wide. Both vintage and "modern". So for instance, I have a number of vintage watches that were sold more than a 100 years ago in Vienna Austria (different dealers) but, turned up in diverse and apart places like South America, USA and Hungary.Best regardsMark
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