6 Discussions and CommentsMember since Feb. 27, 2012
Hi.
I would be very grateful if anyone could help me in my search for more information regarding my pocket watch.
According to what I've been able to find it's a 1928 Calibre 73, is this correct? I've also searched around trying to find pictures of identical watches but haven't found anything yet.
To identify the calibre of your watch you will need the movement number, not the case number. The calibre 73 is a lepine movement (crown at 12 o'clock) so your watch will contain another movement.
Either post your movement number or use DateYourIWC to identify your movement.
6 Discussions and CommentsMember since Feb. 27, 2012
Okay, let's see if I've got this right. Please correct me if I'm wrong :)
Btw, I started out yesterday without any knowledge of pocket watches at all (besides owning one that was given to me by my grandfather several years ago) but the more I read about it the more fascinated I become. So, thanks again for all and any help.
As Cellar stated above (didn't get the meaning at first), the lepine have the crown at 12 o'clock. This would make mine a savonette, right? And if I'm reading iwcpocketwatch right, that would mean that my watch is a Savonette Calibre 66 H5 ? Given the above is correct, is the year 1918 (as found using DateYourIWC) still valid even though DateYourIWC says it's a Lep. Calibre 65?
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That is a very nice example and looks to be in reasonable condition - so its definitely recommended to write to IWC and request an Extract from the Register for this watch - that, will give you the correct data. IWC charge a nominal fee for this service - but you receive a nice document, and it adds to the value of the watch. Both from and emotional as well as resale point of view.
See below for an example of how it looks (extract page only - it has a nice IWC folder around it):
DateYourIWC is pretty accurate, but sometimes does list incorrect information. An extract (from the original IWC sales ledger) will list the exact date of sale of the watch. Sometimes, indeed the movements were manufactured at a considerable time before the cases.
12 Discussions and CommentsMember since Feb. 4, 2012
Michael Friedberg Wrote:H5 stands for the height -- your movement is approximately 5mm. You case and dial are typical of fancy work used in the late 1920s.
Herr Friedberg, would da "H" have originally signified "haute"?
Or "hohe"?
Or perhaps both?
Dis 66 caliber ist da interesting werks, ja?
Both 18 ligne and 19 ligne versions?
And H5, H6 and H6.5 variations?
Were da height variations attributable to different cannon pinions and hour wheels, etc or were da plate to bridge dimensions different?
6 Discussions and CommentsMember since Feb. 27, 2012
Thanks Mark.
I think I'll follow your advice and get an extract from the register. EDIT: Sent an e-mail to IWC now, requesting the extract.
Would be a nice thing to have accompanying the watch as I'll probably hand it over to my son sometime in the future (could be a while as he's 10 months old :). It has too much sentimental value to be considered sold, but one still wonders how much it would be worth if sold. Any ideas? Is this kind of pocket watch rare enough to be a desire for a collector.
I'd also like to learn more about the watch, and even pocket watches in general - any pointers as to where a newbie could start learning more about a newfound fascination? Maybe some book tips, web-sites, etc?
6 Discussions and CommentsMember since Feb. 27, 2012
I e-mailed IWC for an extract from the register, and got in reply that the numbers from the case and movement didn't add up. As it turns out I've managed to misread the number on the movement mistaking an 8 for a 9, DUH! When I finally managed to get it right, 689 949 and not 699 949 as I mistakenly posted earlier, DateYourIWC also agreed that the movement is a Sav. cal. 66 - 19 lig. H5 from 1918.
Herr Muckler--ja, ist haute ( but I said "stands for"). On the height variations I don't know for this calibre. On the cal. 97/98 vs. thinner cal. 95 i believe that there is a plate difference. But here I would guess there are probably combinations to reduce height incrementally.
And Flair --I'm glad this is now straightened out. If it's any solace, the numbers can be hard to read, and I make mistakes all the time. To learn more, I do have an IWC pocket watch website and also have written several introductory articles. Google should help you find them.
6 Discussions and CommentsMember since Feb. 27, 2012
Thanks Michael.
Got the reply from IWC now, and with the correct numbers everything is in order.
I think I've read just about every word on your site over the last couple of days :) Very interesting, great work. However, I've yet to find the articles you mention but now that I know about them I should be able find them. Thanks!
I would be very grateful if anyone could help me in my search for more information regarding my pocket watch.
According to what I've been able to find it's a 1928 Calibre 73, is this correct?
I've also searched around trying to find pictures of identical watches but haven't found anything yet.
The case number is 886967
Thanks in advance for any and all help!
To identify the calibre of your watch you will need the movement number, not the case number. The calibre 73 is a lepine movement (crown at 12 o'clock) so your watch will contain another movement.
Either post your movement number or use DateYourIWC to identify your movement.
Cheers from the cellar
cellar@gregsteer.net
Last edited: 4 January, 2013 - 22:35
I've checked with DateYourIWC using both the movement number and the case number as follows.
Movement number: 699 949
Case number: 886 967
It returns that the movement is a Lèp. calibre 65 from 1918
Lèp. c. 65 - 19lig. H 6
However, as you can see from the photos below beneath the movement number i clearly sais H5? What does the H5 / H6 mean?
The case however is from 1928 according to DateYourIWC.
You case and dial are typical of fancy work used in the late 1920s.
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com
Last edited: 5 April, 2012 - 19:53
Please correct me if I'm wrong :)
Btw, I started out yesterday without any knowledge of pocket watches at all (besides owning one that was given to me by my grandfather several years ago) but the more I read about it the more fascinated I become. So, thanks again for all and any help.
As Cellar stated above (didn't get the meaning at first), the lepine have the crown at 12 o'clock. This would make mine a savonette, right?
And if I'm reading iwcpocketwatch right, that would mean that my watch is a Savonette Calibre 66 H5 ?
Given the above is correct, is the year 1918 (as found using DateYourIWC) still valid even though DateYourIWC says it's a Lep. Calibre 65?
See below for an example of how it looks (extract page only - it has a nice IWC folder around it):
DateYourIWC is pretty accurate, but sometimes does list incorrect information. An extract (from the original IWC sales ledger) will list the exact date of sale of the watch. Sometimes, indeed the movements were manufactured at a considerable time before the cases.
Best regards
Mark
Best regards
Mark
Last edited: 16 April, 2013 - 00:36
Herr Friedberg, would da "H" have originally signified "haute"?
Or "hohe"?
Or perhaps both?
Dis 66 caliber ist da interesting werks, ja?
Both 18 ligne and 19 ligne versions?
And H5, H6 and H6.5 variations?
Were da height variations attributable to different cannon pinions and hour wheels, etc or were da plate to bridge dimensions different?
These old taschenuhr are fascinating!
sm iiH!
Last edited: 28 February, 2012 - 01:23
I think I'll follow your advice and get an extract from the register.
EDIT: Sent an e-mail to IWC now, requesting the extract.
Would be a nice thing to have accompanying the watch as I'll probably hand it over to my son sometime in the future (could be a while as he's 10 months old :). It has too much sentimental value to be considered sold, but one still wonders how much it would be worth if sold. Any ideas? Is this kind of pocket watch rare enough to be a desire for a collector.
I'd also like to learn more about the watch, and even pocket watches in general - any pointers as to where a newbie could start learning more about a newfound fascination? Maybe some book tips, web-sites, etc?
Last edited: 28 February, 2012 - 23:00
As it turns out I've managed to misread the number on the movement mistaking an 8 for a 9, DUH!
When I finally managed to get it right, 689 949 and not 699 949 as I mistakenly posted earlier, DateYourIWC also agreed that the movement is a Sav. cal. 66 - 19 lig. H5 from 1918.
And Flair --I'm glad this is now straightened out. If it's any solace, the numbers can be hard to read, and I make mistakes all the time. To learn more, I do have an IWC pocket watch website and also have written several introductory articles. Google should help you find them.
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com
Last edited: 5 April, 2012 - 19:53
Got the reply from IWC now, and with the correct numbers everything is in order.
I think I've read just about every word on your site over the last couple of days :)
Very interesting, great work.
However, I've yet to find the articles you mention but now that I know about them I should be able find them. Thanks!