6 Discussions and CommentsMember since April 22, 2012
I recently acquired a family pocketwatch. It has Tiffany & Co top center below the "12" and swiss at the base of the face--just below the 60 second clock. The movement number is 754058 and the case number is 65473. The interior of the watch shows it to be made by the international watch co. It shows 15 jewels.
My brief research shows that it was either made in 1920 or around 1926. I can't seem to pin it down. Was this watch indeed made for Tiffany? Is my dating correct? Any help you can give would be appreciated as the dateyour iwc database seems to conflict with what i see--the database shows 17 jewels while the movement states 15.
1,908 Discussions and CommentsMember since Aug. 4, 2001
dl6996 Wrote:I recently acquired a family pocketwatch. It has Tiffany & Co top center below the "12" and swiss at the base of the face--just below the 60 second clock. The movement number is 754058 and the case number is 65473. The interior of the watch shows it to be made by the international watch co. It shows 15 jewels.
My brief research shows that it was either made in 1920 or around 1926. I can't seem to pin it down. Was this watch indeed made for Tiffany? Is my dating correct? Any help you can give would be appreciated as the dateyour iwc database seems to conflict with what i see--the database shows 17 jewels while the movement states 15.
thanks for any help!
A warm welcome to the forum. The best place to discuss vintage IWCs. The movement is a cal 67 from 1920. Only 10,500 cal 67s were made between 1917 and 1921. The case number appears to be missing a number. Please check. Tiffany on the dial indicates it was ordered and sold by.... Tiffany. Several retailers sold watches with their brand name on the dial. Can you please post an image?
1,096 Discussions and CommentsMember since March 28, 2001
I do not agreee. This is not a c.67. (maybe typing error)
Normally the movements used for the "Cressarrow"' which wehere also sold to Tiffany was first the c.73 and then the movement c.77, with hidden winding wheels probalby specially produced for the US-Market. as this movement ist mostly found only in Cressarrow cases.
There is no time in the now it's time for a watch.
217 Discussions and CommentsMember since March 27, 2001
Your watch is a Lepine c.77 in a Cressarow case. A similar pockt watch is shown on the recent thread “NOSTALGY FOR .........IWC POCKET WATCHES” from April, 7 in this forum. The watch shown there has the movement number 75082x. In this forum you can find details about the c. 77 and about Cressarow cases. Regards Hans
To supplement what Ralph has added, because Tiffany used IWCs with Cresarrow cases, the case number is not missing a digit. Generally those case numbers were 5 digits during his era.
But since the watch should have a different movement, there is a disconnect somewhere. To resolve it,I suggest photos of the dial, case inside and movement be posted here.
1,908 Discussions and CommentsMember since Aug. 4, 2001
Ralph Ehrismann Wrote:I do not agreee. This is not a c.67. (maybe typing error)
Normally the movements used for the "Cressarrow"' which wehere also sold to Tiffany was first the c.73 and then the movement c.77, with hidden winding wheels probalby specially produced for the US-Market. as this movement ist mostly found only in Cressarrow cases.
I stand corrected. It was indeed a typo. It is a cal 77. And the case number suggests a Cressarrow case. Thanks Ralph.
6 Discussions and CommentsMember since April 22, 2012
Thanks for all your help! I had taken it to a watch store and they had told me most pocket watches are only worth what the gold is worth. Is this true?
In any case I have attached a couple of pictures. Not the best but hope they help!
It's a very nice watch and the calibre 77 might be the nicest of pocket watch movements, but the price of gold is around $1700/ounce now. Unfortunately the watch is probably not worth $1700 although some retail dealers might try to sell for slightly more.
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Very interesting--the guy i saw offered me $450 dollars for it--seems lowball based on your comments.
One last question--On your website(iwcpocketwatch) I noted that you mentioned the calibre 77 had 16 or more jewels and the movement on mine shows 15. Do i need to be concerned? thanks again
It shows 15 jewels.
My brief research shows that it was either made in 1920 or around 1926. I can't seem to pin it down. Was this watch indeed made for Tiffany? Is my dating correct? Any help you can give would be appreciated as the dateyour iwc database seems to conflict with what i see--the database shows 17 jewels while the movement states 15.
thanks for any help!
A warm welcome to the forum. The best place to discuss vintage IWCs.
The movement is a cal 67 from 1920. Only 10,500 cal 67s were made between 1917 and 1921.
The case number appears to be missing a number. Please check.
Tiffany on the dial indicates it was ordered and sold by.... Tiffany. Several retailers sold watches with their brand name on the dial.
Can you please post an image?
clepsydra
ad fontes...
Last edited: 22 April, 2012 - 10:57
Normally the movements used for the "Cressarrow"' which wehere also sold to Tiffany was first the c.73 and then the movement c.77, with hidden winding wheels probalby specially produced for the US-Market. as this movement ist mostly found only in Cressarrow cases.
There is no time in the now it's time for a watch.
Last edited: 7 September, 2012 - 23:25
“NOSTALGY FOR .........IWC POCKET WATCHES” from April, 7 in this forum. The watch shown there has the movement number 75082x. In this forum you can find details about the c. 77 and about Cressarow cases.
Regards
Hans
Last edited: 26 November, 2012 - 20:28
But since the watch should have a different movement, there is a disconnect somewhere. To resolve it,I suggest photos of the dial, case inside and movement be posted here.
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com
Last edited: 22 April, 2012 - 13:17
I stand corrected. It was indeed a typo. It is a cal 77. And the case number suggests a Cressarrow case.
Thanks Ralph.
clepsydra
ad fontes...
Last edited: 22 April, 2012 - 13:19
In any case I have attached a couple of pictures. Not the best but hope they help!
It's a very nice watch and the calibre 77 might be the nicest of pocket watch movements, but the price of gold is around $1700/ounce now. Unfortunately the watch is probably not worth $1700 although some retail dealers might try to sell for slightly more.
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com
One last question--On your website(iwcpocketwatch) I noted that you mentioned the calibre 77 had 16 or more jewels and the movement on mine shows 15. Do i need to be concerned?
thanks again