25 Discussions and CommentsMember since May 21, 2012Perth,
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I recently acquired a new Portofino 8 day hand wound. I have noticed that when the hour hand is directly over the hour marker that the minute hand isn't quite on the 12 - typically about 1-3 minutes before. This varies between different hours.
The effect is probably accentuated by the larger face, longer hands and hour hand that passes directly over the hour marker.
Does anyone know if this is within acceptable tolerances? The retailer didn't know and another watch in the store had similar variances.
3,727 Discussions and CommentsMember since March 28, 2001
Michael Friedberg Wrote:I think 3 minutes off would bother me, and I would get that fixed --something easy to do. ...
Thank you Michael. I have several watches with this issue, including the Portofino. I imagine that this could happen as the hours hand has some slack, not taken into account or checked when the hands are mounted.
So an AD can correct this on the spot, of course without inflicting damage to the watch? Like he can correct (not the same as adjust?) the watch when it runs a bit too fast? Until now I let nobody touch the watches for these kinds of issues, not being sure whether the cure is worse than the ailment.
Kind regards, Paul
What you do may not be so important, but it is very important that you do it well. (my variation of a saying by Gandhi)
I'd defer to watchmaker, Paul, but in general I would think it's not an on-the-spot AD repair. The case has to taken apart so that there's access to the hands, which have to pulled off with a special tool and reinserted just right. Simple in concept but still it's a skilled repair.
25 Discussions and CommentsMember since May 21, 2012Perth,
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Thanks all, Yes I have only moved the hands clockwise (it is more noticeable when wound anticlockwise) The variation is between differnt hours not for the same hour e.g. consistently, 5 o'clock seems accurate but 9 o'clock is not. Michael you said that you would not be happy with 3 minutes, would you be happy with 1 minute or should I expect it to be absolutely accurate? Regards
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That seems to me, that the dial is not centered correctly.
Thank you Rudiger, I wondered about that after reading of a similar problem with some Portuguese models and speculation that the cause was an off-centred dial
From the further description, Rüdiger is certainly correct. Resetting the hands won't cure it. I would tolerate a minute or so, and in fact do that on one of my Portuguese model watches.
310 Discussions and CommentsMember since Oct. 10, 2002
You can verify an off-centered dial by doing the following:
- Stop your watch by pulling the crown. - Move the minute-hand slowly around and watch the distance to the "Minuterie" or the "Rehaut". If that varies, the dial is off-centered.
Hope my English did not loose me completely.
Rüdiger
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I have noticed that when the hour hand is directly over the hour marker that the minute hand isn't quite on the 12 - typically about 1-3 minutes before. This varies between different hours.
The effect is probably accentuated by the larger face, longer hands and hour hand that passes directly over the hour marker.
Does anyone know if this is within acceptable tolerances? The retailer didn't know and another watch in the store had similar variances.
I would appreciate thoughts/comments
Last edited: 22 August, 2012 - 09:39
Also if the variance changes (sometimes 1 minute, other times 3) I would wonder if the hands are a bit loose.
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com
Thank you Michael. I have several watches with this issue, including the Portofino. I imagine that this could happen as the hours hand has some slack, not taken into account or checked when the hands are mounted.
So an AD can correct this on the spot, of course without inflicting damage to the watch? Like he can correct (not the same as adjust?) the watch when it runs a bit too fast? Until now I let nobody touch the watches for these kinds of issues, not being sure whether the cure is worse than the ailment.
Kind regards,
Paul
What you do may not be so important, but it is very important that you do it well. (my variation of a saying by Gandhi)
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com
Last edited: 26 May, 2012 - 19:56
Yes I have only moved the hands clockwise (it is more noticeable when wound anticlockwise)
The variation is between differnt hours not for the same hour e.g. consistently, 5 o'clock seems accurate but 9 o'clock is not.
Michael you said that you would not be happy with 3 minutes, would you be happy with 1 minute or should I expect it to be absolutely accurate?
Regards
Last edited: 22 August, 2012 - 09:39
That seems to me, that the dial is not centered correctly.
Rüdiger
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Last edited: 25 June, 2012 - 08:49
Thank you Rudiger, I wondered about that after reading of a similar problem with some Portuguese models and speculation that the cause was an off-centred dial
Last edited: 22 August, 2012 - 09:39
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com
- Stop your watch by pulling the crown.
- Move the minute-hand slowly around and watch the distance to the "Minuterie" or the "Rehaut".
If that varies, the dial is off-centered.
Hope my English did not loose me completely.
Rüdiger
*Zeit verhindert, dass alles auf einmal passiert* (unbekannt)
Last edited: 25 June, 2012 - 08:49