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kunisman Wrote:I´m following this thread the same way my wife follows her favorite soap opera...main difference is that I won´t be "brain damaged" (I hope :)) ). Please continue...
Olá Kunisman, Benvindo ao forum. É bom ver mais um fan da IWC em Portugal.
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So indeed, there are 2 different IWC Royal Navy Deck Watches : the Cal. 71 "fishtail" and the Cal. 52 SC (seconde centrale). From the last one, only 200 were made. So very collectable I would say. The funny thing is this. The famous B-Uhr with caliber 52SC has the same movement as the cal 52SC PW and 1000 pieces were made. On the current market both watches are nearly unfindable, I mean correct ones. The wrist watch B-Uhr easily fetches 20.000-25.000 $,but the PW can be bought for less than a quarter of that price! Than 15.000 $ for a steel watch case is a lot of money.(=: Now that both known Royal Navy PW's have been shown, I wonder whether it is worthwhile to post the "Kriegsmarine" and post war "Bundeswehr" deck watches used by the German Navy until 1966. They were posted before in an article here on the Forum, but I am glad to show their pictures and (summarised) stories once again. Kind regards, Adrian, (alwaysiwc).
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Beautiful "fishtail" Catherine. Before depicting the German IWC Deck watches or "Beobachtungsuhren", another Mk 11, used as a military watch for astronavigation but not being a military watch is shown. I am referring to the B.O.A.C Mk 11, a watch used by the predecessor of British Airlines. This watch was not very popular among B.O.A.C. pilots. The reason was that in contrast to RAF, RAAF, SAAF and RNZAF, these watches were not serviced at regular time intervals, leading to inaccuracy after a year or so. Although provided by B.O.A.C.,many pilots decided to keep the company's watches in a drawer at home. They used their own watches (Omega, Bulova etc.), as they were new and accurate. This B.O.A.C. Mk 11 has been restored at IWC completely.
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..Here is the back. The inscription of the owning pilot has been added later.
Many years ago, I was invited by IWC to attend the SIHH in Geneva. At that occasion , IWC invited us for a flight with the Juncker plain in the valley of the Geneva lake. I met an American guy on board named B.T. He knew all about military plains as his father was a US pilot on the P38 during WW II in the Far East. He told me that he was the proud owner of a B.O.A.C. Mk 11. From that moment on I molested him by sending continuously emails : I want to buy that watch. He answered that he was not interested, unless I could deliver to him the airplain in which we flew over Geneva. I gave up. About 3 years later, he contacted me telling that he wanted to sell this watch to the most stubborn IWC collector he knew : me! We got a deal and a few things had to be exchanged. The most important of these were the "spring bars". The B.O.A.C. Mk 11 had originally "fixed bars". A well known German IWC collector told me that IWC was not able to reverse from "spring" to fixed". but he was wrong.. Here is the back side of the watch, which I have refused to be polished.
Olá Kunisman,
Benvindo ao forum. É bom ver mais um fan da IWC em Portugal.
clepsydra
ad fontes...
clepsydra
ad fontes...
Now that both known Royal Navy PW's have been shown, I wonder whether it is worthwhile to post the "Kriegsmarine" and post war "Bundeswehr" deck watches used by the German Navy until 1966. They were posted before in an article here on the Forum, but I am glad to show their pictures and (summarised) stories once again.
Kind regards,
Adrian,
(alwaysiwc).
clepsydra
ad fontes...
Regards,
Marinus
Last edited: 2 December, 2012 - 18:39
Best,
Ian.
Before depicting the German IWC Deck watches or "Beobachtungsuhren", another Mk 11, used as a military watch for astronavigation but not being a military watch is shown. I am referring to the B.O.A.C Mk 11, a watch used by the predecessor of British Airlines. This watch was not very popular among B.O.A.C. pilots. The reason was that in contrast to RAF, RAAF, SAAF and RNZAF, these watches were not serviced at regular time intervals, leading to inaccuracy after a year or so. Although provided by B.O.A.C.,many pilots decided to keep the company's watches in a drawer at home. They used their own watches (Omega, Bulova etc.), as they were new and accurate. This B.O.A.C. Mk 11 has been restored at IWC completely.
Many years ago, I was invited by IWC to attend the SIHH in Geneva. At that occasion , IWC invited us for a flight with the Juncker plain in the valley of the Geneva lake. I met an American guy on board named B.T. He knew all about military plains as his father was a US pilot on the P38 during WW II in the Far East. He told me that he was the proud owner of a B.O.A.C. Mk 11. From that moment on I molested him by sending continuously emails : I want to buy that watch. He answered that he was not interested, unless I could deliver to him the airplain in which we flew over Geneva. I gave up. About 3 years later, he contacted me telling that he wanted to sell this watch to the most stubborn IWC collector he knew : me! We got a deal and a few things had to be exchanged.
The most important of these were the "spring bars". The B.O.A.C. Mk 11 had originally "fixed bars". A well known German IWC collector told me that IWC was not able to reverse from "spring" to fixed". but he was wrong..
Here is the back side of the watch, which I have refused to be polished.