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United Kingdom
Hi guys, Regarding point 3,in an after-sales context,the factory defined daily rate(tolerance) for the 79XXX calibres used in 3714's/3712's is -2/+7 seconds per day. For 893XX calibres the tolerance is tighter at 0/+7 seconds per day,implying a movement capable of better accuracy. Other notable points would be the increased power-reserve,68 hours compared with 44 hours.Also the greater efficency of the bidirectional automatic winding system of the 893XX can offer that 68 hours PR after only 4 hours on a standard 4 rotations/minute winding wheel. The unidirectional system of the 79XXX takes 6 hours to on the wheel to fully charge. At the end of the day, these are only statistics for movements. There is no 3714 with an 893XX movement and 2013 being the year of the Inge, it would be at least a year and a half before the possibility even arises. The 3714 is an iconic IWC and if you have the opportunity to get one now,do so! You can start saving afterwards to purchase a hypothetical 893XX model in 2 or 3 years time. Leo
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Alan Ross Wrote:David,
I like it a lot better when we just post some pics, talk about watches and enjoy what this Forum has to offer. Like these two guys...
Alan - guess what I do? I enjoy the forum and the different opinions represented here. Sometimes I post pictures, sometimes I like discussing. I don't think that there is something wrong with that?
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regulateur Wrote in reply to:
Alan Ross Wrote: Alan - guess what I do? I enjoy the forum and the different opinions represented here. Sometimes I post pictures, sometimes I like discussing. I don't think that there is something wrong with that?
Glad to hear it. One of the things I like about this Forum is that it is actually and well moderated.
2,081 Discussions and CommentsMember since Jan. 7, 2005
Michael Friedberg Wrote:In my role as moderator I suggest we just go back now to discussing here a future in-house movement relative to Reference 3714 :)
Omar Khayyám (Persia XI-XII Century) offered that Time should not only be measured in length but also in width due to the intrinsic difference between a minute or other depending on what is happening to the beholder... I wonder how a watch would look like...
225 Discussions and CommentsMember since April 18, 2012
Michael Friedberg Wrote:In my role as moderator I suggest we just go back now to discussing here a future in-house movement relative to Reference 3714 :)
OK - Sellita is in the game.
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456 Discussions and CommentsMember since Dec. 18, 2009Northbridge,
Australia
regulateur Wrote:Hi RANO85
Lack of steel back: IWC would for sure use the sapphire glass back. This would make it impossible to personalize the watch, as there is no space for engravings
Hi Regulateur,
The 3714 has been done in both metal back and display back - see 3714-06/07/08, 3712-07 and many more and the VC Ingenieur is originally a display back but has also been released as a steel back with "customisation" - see the Laureus edition. Just because a watch may have a nice looking movement doesn't always mean that it will only be released with a display back.
RANO85 - if you like the current watch, go for it, it is a good looking watch, has a nice profile and a well proven caliber - it is kind of like saying you wouldn't buy a Maserati because they come with Ferrari engines instead of in-house Maserati engines. . . . You could always be waiting for something bigger, better, faster, stronger to come out and miss out on enjoying something now.
Cheers,
Ben
Time is something invented by the Swiss to help sell more watches
Regarding point 3,in an after-sales context,the factory defined daily rate(tolerance) for the 79XXX calibres used in 3714's/3712's is -2/+7 seconds per day. For 893XX calibres the tolerance is tighter at 0/+7 seconds per day,implying a movement capable of better accuracy.
Other notable points would be the increased power-reserve,68 hours compared with 44 hours.Also the greater efficency of the bidirectional automatic winding system of the 893XX can offer that 68 hours PR after only 4 hours on a standard 4 rotations/minute winding wheel. The unidirectional system of the 79XXX takes 6 hours to on the wheel to fully charge.
At the end of the day, these are only statistics for movements. There is no 3714 with an 893XX movement and 2013 being the year of the Inge, it would be at least a year and a half before the possibility even arises.
The 3714 is an iconic IWC and if you have the opportunity to get one now,do so! You can start saving afterwards to purchase a hypothetical 893XX model in 2 or 3 years time.
Leo
I like it a lot better when we just post some pics, talk about watches and enjoy what this Forum has to offer. Like these two guys...
Alan - guess what I do? I enjoy the forum and the different opinions represented here. Sometimes I post pictures, sometimes I like discussing. I don't think that there is something wrong with that?
You come from nothing, you go back to nothing. What have you lost? Nothing!
Last edited: 31 January, 2013 - 15:22
Glad to hear it. One of the things I like about this Forum is that it is actually and well moderated.
Last edited: 8 December, 2012 - 15:04
Regards, Michael
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Discuss Michael?
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Regards,
Roberto
Last edited: 11 January, 2013 - 11:07
Two thumbs up, Roberto!
Regards,
Jeronimo
Omar Khayyám (Persia XI-XII Century) offered that Time should not only be measured in length but also in width due to the intrinsic difference between a minute or other depending on what is happening to the beholder... I wonder how a watch would look like...
OK - Sellita is in the game.
You come from nothing, you go back to nothing. What have you lost? Nothing!
Last edited: 31 January, 2013 - 15:22
Alan, I thought you would rather like to post pictures?
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Last edited: 31 January, 2013 - 15:22
I am looking for a picture of a future Portuguese chronograph movement.
Hi Regulateur,
The 3714 has been done in both metal back and display back - see 3714-06/07/08, 3712-07 and many more and the VC Ingenieur is originally a display back but has also been released as a steel back with "customisation" - see the Laureus edition. Just because a watch may have a nice looking movement doesn't always mean that it will only be released with a display back.
RANO85 - if you like the current watch, go for it, it is a good looking watch, has a nice profile and a well proven caliber - it is kind of like saying you wouldn't buy a Maserati because they come with Ferrari engines instead of in-house Maserati engines. . . . You could always be waiting for something bigger, better, faster, stronger to come out and miss out on enjoying something now.
Cheers,
Ben
Time is something invented by the Swiss to help sell more watches