3 Discussions and CommentsMember since Jan. 22, 2013
Hello,
I am new to the forum as of today. I have been looking for a luxury watch for several months and have bounced from a Rolex Explorer II to Chopard Mille Miglia Chrono to an IWC Pilot Chrono all the way over to something more subdued like a Omega Aqua Terra or THIS VERY DIFFERENT STYLE - a Vintage IWC Classic.
I found one for sale near my home at a reputable dealer and hoped to get some feedback on the age, quality and value of this watch.
19 Discussions and CommentsMember since Jan. 4, 2013
I was just on the hunt for an IWC Cal 88 recently. My suspicion is that the watch is a fake. The following is a web site I found in my search that attempts to catalog the various watch faces and cases used for the Cal 88, and I do not see anything similar.
http://www.time514.com/C88.htm
Also, I am equally new here but I do believe there is a prohibition on posting links to sale sites.
670 Discussions and CommentsMember since Sept. 13, 2002
cardcat Wrote:I was just on the hunt for an IWC Cal 88 recently. My suspicion is that the watch is a fake. The following is a web site I found in my search that attempts to catalog the various watch faces and cases used for the Cal 88, and I do not see anything similar.
http://www.time514.com/C88.htm
Also, I am equally new here but I do believe there is a prohibition on posting links to sale sites.
Useing the vintage catalogues (http://www.iwcforum.com/Vintage_Catalogs.html)
may be more fruitful than believing stock on a knocked-up website is automatically correct (a % of it isn't). The example posted by Gopwr appears to have had at least the dial re-painted...for whatever reason.
19 Discussions and CommentsMember since Jan. 4, 2013
oneredtrim Wrote: Useing the vintage catalogues (http://www.iwcforum.com/Vintage_Catalogs.html)
may be fruitful than believing stock on a knocked-up website is automatically correct (a % of it isn't). The example posted by Gopwr appears to have had at least the dial re-painted...for whatever reason.
Yes, absolutely. I made the mistake of not adding that the site I directed Gopwr to is far from definitive. I forgot about the catalogs, but I have gone through them before myself when I was looking for a Cal 88. It is still the case that I have not seen a face like that in all my searching. The primary thing is the font of the numbers. I just don't recall seeing that font.
3 Discussions and CommentsMember since Jan. 22, 2013
I took a look at the watch in person today. I was told that it was from the 70's. It is a hand wind not automatic. In addition, the face has some discoloration. I was told that the discoloration would be expected by a vintage buyer. As a novice, I did not notice the discoloration nor would I know if the 'patina' of sorts was an endearing quality or a degrading factor.
Opinions?
It really was a nice watch but I think that I want an automatic movement in a vintage watch from the 70's.
19 Discussions and CommentsMember since Jan. 4, 2013
GoPwr Wrote:I took a look at the watch in person today. I was told that it was from the 70's. It is a hand wind not automatic. In addition, the face has some discoloration. I was told that the discoloration would be expected by a vintage buyer. As a novice, I did not notice the discoloration nor would I know if the 'patina' of sorts was an endearing quality or a degrading factor.
Opinions?
It really was a nice watch but I think that I want an automatic movement in a vintage watch from the 70's.
I think you will get a decent amount of other opinions about hand wound versus automatic movements. You will notice that there are a significant number of very nice watches with hand wound movements. Notice that the most exclusive watch in the IWC catalog, the Portuguese Siderale Scafusia, is a hand wound. There is something to be said for the daily ritual of winding your watch.
As for that watch, I will not again I am a novice here, but that does not sound right. I did a fair bit of digging when I was looking for a vintage IWC, and the look of that watch is, to my eye, pre-1970's. The movement with the subsidiary second hand at 6 o'clock was the cal 88 and it was discontinued in 1964. To my limited knowledge, all the movements with subsidiary second hands in the 1970's were only in the IWC pocket watches. The only way to tell is to have the dealer open the case back so you can see the movement and case numbers.
I am new to the forum as of today. I have been looking for a luxury watch for several months and have bounced from a Rolex Explorer II to Chopard Mille Miglia Chrono to an IWC Pilot Chrono all the way over to something more subdued like a Omega Aqua Terra or THIS VERY DIFFERENT STYLE - a Vintage IWC Classic.
I found one for sale near my home at a reputable dealer and hoped to get some feedback on the age, quality and value of this watch.
Your text to link here...
Thanks so much for any help you can provide.
Robert
http://www.time514.com/C88.htm
Also, I am equally new here but I do believe there is a prohibition on posting links to sale sites.
Last edited: 23 January, 2013 - 18:27
Useing the vintage catalogues (http://www.iwcforum.com/Vintage_Catalogs.html)
may be more fruitful than believing stock on a knocked-up website is automatically correct (a % of it isn't). The example posted by Gopwr appears to have had at least the dial re-painted...for whatever reason.
Last edited: 22 January, 2013 - 21:49
Yes, absolutely. I made the mistake of not adding that the site I directed Gopwr to is far from definitive. I forgot about the catalogs, but I have gone through them before myself when I was looking for a Cal 88. It is still the case that I have not seen a face like that in all my searching. The primary thing is the font of the numbers. I just don't recall seeing that font.
Last edited: 23 January, 2013 - 18:27
Opinions?
It really was a nice watch but I think that I want an automatic movement in a vintage watch from the 70's.
I think you will get a decent amount of other opinions about hand wound versus automatic movements. You will notice that there are a significant number of very nice watches with hand wound movements. Notice that the most exclusive watch in the IWC catalog, the Portuguese Siderale Scafusia, is a hand wound. There is something to be said for the daily ritual of winding your watch.
As for that watch, I will not again I am a novice here, but that does not sound right. I did a fair bit of digging when I was looking for a vintage IWC, and the look of that watch is, to my eye, pre-1970's. The movement with the subsidiary second hand at 6 o'clock was the cal 88 and it was discontinued in 1964. To my limited knowledge, all the movements with subsidiary second hands in the 1970's were only in the IWC pocket watches. The only way to tell is to have the dealer open the case back so you can see the movement and case numbers.
Last edited: 23 January, 2013 - 18:27
Regards,
Cliff
Last edited: 30 January, 2013 - 09:14