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The UK Greg Wrote:As confirmation the Portofino auto and the Ingie 40mm have a big discrepancy in the number of jewels. So there is no way they have the same movement.
This can well be. But it says nothing about who built it.
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regulateur Wrote in reply to:
The UK Greg Wrote:As confirmation the Portofino auto and the Ingie 40mm have a big discrepancy in the number of jewels. So there is no way they have the same movement.
This can well be. But it says nothing about who built it.
Yes, but a 2892A2 has 21 jewels and a SW300 25 ..........
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Can anyone comment on the hardness of the carbon cased Inge? I simply love the looks but I am very concerned about how scratch resistant the case is. I had a pressed carbon AP offshore and the case looked very bad after only 6 months of careful wrist time. Everything seemed to leave a mark on that case no matter how hard I tried to be careful with it.
I really want to try and hunt one of these down this year, but am wondering if the case is so soft that it will remain a safe queen. Thoughts?
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JohnTz Wrote:Can anyone comment on the hardness of the carbon cased Inge? I simply love the looks but I am very concerned about how scratch resistant the case is. I had a pressed carbon AP offshore and the case looked very bad after only 6 months of careful wrist time. Everything seemed to leave a mark on that case no matter how hard I tried to be careful with it.
I really want to try and hunt one of these down this year, but am wondering if the case is so soft that it will remain a safe queen. Thoughts?
It is actually depending from the depth of the scratch. If it touches the structure of the carbon, then it will look ugly and there is no other way than to replace it. For watches who have a case made out of modular parts of carbon, you can simply replace them in such a case, which is no big deal. I don't know how it is with IWC, butI guess you would have to replace the whole case here (which probably costs a fortune) or just live with the scratch.
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JohnTz Wrote:Can anyone comment on the hardness of the carbon cased Inge? I simply love the looks but I am very concerned about how scratch resistant the case is. I had a pressed carbon AP offshore and the case looked very bad after only 6 months of careful wrist time. Everything seemed to leave a mark on that case no matter how hard I tried to be careful with it.
I really want to try and hunt one of these down this year, but am wondering if the case is so soft that it will remain a safe queen. Thoughts?
I met with an AP official. Their carbon was forged and had some problems. For their diving watch in 2013 it is being replaced by ceramic.
IWC has a different process, using layers hand placed, which is better. But still carbon fibre is soft--only about 3.5 on the MOHs scale. But to limit scratches, they coat their carbon fibre cases with a lacquer, which can be redone. Still, it's not optimal for scratch resistance.
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Good discussion on the carbon case gents.
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regulateur Wrote:....
It is actually depending from the depth of the scratch. If it touches the structure of the carbon, then it will look ugly and there is no other way than to replace it. For watches who have a case made out of modular parts of carbon, you can simply replace them in such a case, which is no big deal. I don't know how it is with IWC, butI guess you would have to replace the whole case here (which probably costs a fortune) or just live with the scratch.
As far as I know, you are right. I have made the same experience with the carbon parts of my road bike some years ago. You can only replace the parts or live with the scratches.
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Very interesting discussion about carbon cases... I heard that AP carbon case wasn't "ideal"...but the production process of that case wasn't very long and complicated..,it was made of "carbon threads" or something in this style
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Cisiu Wrote:Very interesting discussion about carbon cases... I heard that AP carbon case wasn't "ideal"...but the production process of that case wasn't very long and complicated..,it was made of "carbon threads" or something in this style
I don't know anything about AP or IWC carbon cases but I just wanted to say that anything made out of carbon fibre is made out of "carbon threads", hence the word carbon FIBRE. These are fibres that are weaved together and then moulded under pressure and temperature using a resin (usually a form of epoxy) to create the material we all know. The distinct carbon fibre pattern we can see is the "wave of that weave".
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Skule Wrote in reply to:
Cisiu Wrote:Very interesting discussion about carbon cases... I heard that AP carbon case wasn't "ideal"...but the production process of that case wasn't very long and complicated..,it was made of "carbon threads" or something in this style
I don't know anything about AP or IWC carbon cases but I just wanted to say that anything made out of carbon fibre is made out of "carbon threads", hence the word carbon FIBRE. These are fibres that are weaved together and then moulded under pressure and temperature using a resin (usually a form of epoxy) to create the material we all know. The distinct carbon fibre pattern we can see is the "wave of that weave".
"Carbon fibre" is in my opinion is general name of something which is made with carbon. Skule, maybe in our countries we have different words or names of that material
This can well be. But it says nothing about who built it.
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Yes, but a 2892A2 has 21 jewels and a SW300 25 ..........
Regards,
Bas
I really want to try and hunt one of these down this year, but am wondering if the case is so soft that it will remain a safe queen. Thoughts?
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It is actually depending from the depth of the scratch. If it touches the structure of the carbon, then it will look ugly and there is no other way than to replace it. For watches who have a case made out of modular parts of carbon, you can simply replace them in such a case, which is no big deal. I don't know how it is with IWC, butI guess you would have to replace the whole case here (which probably costs a fortune) or just live with the scratch.
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Last edited: 31 January, 2013 - 15:22
I met with an AP official. Their carbon was forged and had some problems. For their diving watch in 2013 it is being replaced by ceramic.
IWC has a different process, using layers hand placed, which is better. But still carbon fibre is soft--only about 3.5 on the MOHs scale. But to limit scratches, they coat their carbon fibre cases with a lacquer, which can be redone. Still, it's not optimal for scratch resistance.
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Regards, Shing | email iwcforme1976 (at) gmail (dot) com
time does not change us. it just unfolds us. max frisch.
all that really belongs to us is time; even he who has nothing else has that. baltasar gracian.
As far as I know, you are right. I have made the same experience with the carbon parts of my road bike some years ago. You can only replace the parts or live with the scratches.
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I don't know anything about AP or IWC carbon cases but I just wanted to say that anything made out of carbon fibre is made out of "carbon threads", hence the word carbon FIBRE. These are fibres that are weaved together and then moulded under pressure and temperature using a resin (usually a form of epoxy) to create the material we all know. The distinct carbon fibre pattern we can see is the "wave of that weave".
Skule
"Carbon fibre" is in my opinion is general name of something which is made with carbon. Skule, maybe in our countries we have different words or names of that material
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