flyrobyfly36 Wrote:That's why I always think the watch itself, not the brand nor the name of the model nor anything else might take my attention away from the intrinsical qualities of the watch.
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Alan Ross Wrote:@David,I am not buying the analogies you present. They work both ways. For example, there are certain cars I would not buy no matter how fast they are because I don't like the way they look. Same with an off road vehicle. Same for watches. If I like the way it looks I'll overlook the antimagnetic shortcomings. And if its ugly ( to my eyes) it could withstand the pull of the North Pole but I won't own it.
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Vahalis Wrote:Of course it's marketing and we all fell for it more or less. At least, I did. But, what does Ingenieur mean? IWC answered that question some time ago ;)
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Michael Friedberg Wrote:Two quick comments:Roberto and Shing --I do consider brand when looking at a watch. I think some brands represent quality; I'm not just buying a name.Regulateur --I didn't know that today's IWC's amagnetic only have half of a Faraday cage, with no soft iron dial. Without further data, to my knowledge that's not true. The new Ingemieur Automatic is resistant to 40,000 A/m, and to my knowledge that's simply impossible is the watch is not protected at all on the front half.
regulateur Wrote in reply to:Alan Ross Wrote:@David,I am not buying the analogies you present. They work both ways. For example, there are certain cars I would not buy no matter how fast they are because I don't like the way they look. Same with an off road vehicle. Same for watches. If I like the way it looks I'll overlook the antimagnetic shortcomings. And if its ugly ( to my eyes) it could withstand the pull of the North Pole but I won't own it. Well, Alan - for some people only the look or design matters. For some others, the real values and features matter, too. I am not a person who can afford to buy a new luxury watch any time I'd like or if I get bored looking at the ones I already have, so the consideration of all aspects matters. The watch has to mean something to me, not only look nice. And for most car buyers, I guess the values matter, too.
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Alan Ross Wrote:Well you certainly twisted that around. LOLI never said I "only" look at the design. To the contrary, I look at all the "real values and features". But the watch still has to look good.I don't know why you assume that I buy a new luxury watch any time I like or get bored with watches I have. This is nonsense.
regulateur Wrote:Michael, this is the information I got from customer service at IWC one year ago. Some design features of dials like the sunbeam effect can't be produced on dials made out of soft iron, I was told.
Michael Friedberg Wrote:It's obvious your information couldn't then apply to the new Ingenieur automatics, which neither have sunburst dials nor existed a year ago. The watches with sunburst dials, like last year's pilot's chrono. were never presented as being amagnetic nor with Faraday cages. It's true --those dials aren't soft iron-- but there are no half Faraday cages.