1,105 Discussions and CommentsMember since March 28, 2001
Yes, I have
Its is a modified version of the c9720. It was used in two watches, the famous "Varion" Ref 5410 and the shown Ref 5306. This calibre is since quite a while on my whish list, but the watch on ebay is much too expensiv for me. (There the chain for the key is missing; the origial price 1979 was CHF 6'750.- env. €5500; it is my my rule to pay for a used watch about 50% of the "new" price) I know we should not discuss prices here, its just the history of it ;-)
I missed one for quite a resonable price due to my travel activity. (sitting in a plane during the auction)
regards
Ralph
Here the catalog page:
Watches show the time flow, time to watch the watch show.
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Thank you for this interesting post. I was quite surprised that key wound pocketwatches were made not that long ago. I thought that they were replaced by the crown wound versions years and years ago!
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I saw the calibre number and thought "recent",then the words key wound and thought "very early" add the two together and I was confused especially by the photos which suggests a quality piece well made and well finished and quite recent. What era is this from?
In the 1970s when IWC first coped with the quartz crisis, they toyed with being a pocket watch specialist and produced this plus many others. In 2002 I wrote an artless on all these recreations, which can be found by clicking here.
While they are nice watches,these modern recreations have no interest to me personally.
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The UK Greg Wrote:Checked the model number and noticed the dial is down as Imitation Enamel, anyone got any further info on what imitation enamel is?
I also have some watches with the imitation enamel. I have not much more info on it:
- It was used, because it is less sensitive on shocks, to prevent damadge! - It was used, because it became very difficult to get high quality, (real) enamel dials!! - I dont like it too much!!!
Ralph
Watches show the time flow, time to watch the watch show.
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Michael Friedberg Wrote in reply to:
The UK Greg Wrote:Checked the model number and noticed the dial is down as Imitation Enamel, anyone got any further info on what imitation enamel is?
I once asked, and was told it was basically a form of glossy paint-like coating.
I don't want to be impolite. For me it looks just like a kind of shiny paint. But it is not as brilliant, bright as the enamel. the "Imitation Enamel" seems also to be missing "depth" of the enamal dial.
But behind a mineral glass, giving also some shine and reflections it is not as bad as I wrote.
ADDITION: I also remember a discussion I had with Mr. King concerning this dials. He told me, IWC was searching for a producer of enamel dials for this "high grade" watches with complication. But the results of the test dial where such disappointing (bubles, holes etc.), IWC had to look for an other dial type. That the producer of the dials has disappeard has two reasons: firstly the Wrist watches, which where made mostly with metalic dials (the fall done, and for the an enamel dial this is the "dead") and as Michael mentioned also the Quartz Watch Crises reduced again the chances for high quality pocket watches with enamel dials.
Watches show the time flow, time to watch the watch show.
clepsydra
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Last edited: 18 February, 2013 - 20:06
Its is a modified version of the c9720.
It was used in two watches, the famous "Varion" Ref 5410 and the shown Ref 5306. This calibre is since quite a while on my whish list, but the watch on ebay is much too expensiv for me. (There the chain for the key is missing; the origial price 1979 was CHF 6'750.- env. €5500; it is my my rule to pay for a used watch about 50% of the "new" price) I know we should not discuss prices here, its just the history of it ;-)
I missed one for quite a resonable price due to my travel activity. (sitting in a plane during the auction)
regards
Ralph
Here the catalog page:
Watches show the time flow, time to watch the watch show.
Last edited: 23 May, 2013 - 23:51
Very interesting find. I learn a lot reading your posts - thank you!
You come from nothing, you go back to nothing. What have you lost? Nothing!
Kind regards,
Clemens
What era is this from?
Cheers Greg Chalk
Cvanwhite at aol dot com
Last edited: 21 February, 2013 - 13:47
While they are nice watches,these modern recreations have no interest to me personally.
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com
Cheers Greg Chalk
Cvanwhite at aol dot com
Last edited: 21 February, 2013 - 13:47
I also have some watches with the imitation enamel. I have not much more info on it:
- It was used, because it is less sensitive on shocks, to prevent damadge!
- It was used, because it became very difficult to get high quality, (real) enamel dials!!
- I dont like it too much!!!
Ralph
Watches show the time flow, time to watch the watch show.
Last edited: 23 May, 2013 - 23:51
I once asked, and was told it was basically a form of glossy paint-like coating.
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com
I don't want to be impolite. For me it looks just like a kind of shiny paint. But it is not as brilliant, bright as the enamel. the "Imitation Enamel" seems also to be missing "depth" of the enamal dial.
But behind a mineral glass, giving also some shine and reflections it is not as bad as I wrote.
ADDITION:
I also remember a discussion I had with Mr. King concerning this dials. He told me, IWC was searching for a producer of enamel dials for this "high grade" watches with complication. But the results of the test dial where such disappointing (bubles, holes etc.), IWC had to look for an other dial type. That the producer of the dials has disappeard has two reasons: firstly the Wrist watches, which where made mostly with metalic dials (the fall done, and for the an enamel dial this is the "dead") and as Michael mentioned also the Quartz Watch Crises reduced again the chances for high quality pocket watches with enamel dials.
Watches show the time flow, time to watch the watch show.
Last edited: 23 May, 2013 - 23:51