This is my first post on the IWC forum although I have owned several vintage and new IWC watches in my life as a collector including an early Jones Cal pocket watch. Anyway, as a longtime admirer of IWC, I jumped at the chance to buy the little fellow in the pictures below. To the best of my research this is a Cal 82-N movement from the mid '20s. The case is 18k. The dial looks to be original. I thought when I bought it that the crown was not original. I imagine these early watches with bigger pocket watch style crowns but as I do my research online the crown seems as though it might be right.
Can anybody tell me if my speculation about the watch is correct and possibly give me any further information.
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Given its age it's in pretty good condition. Whether to go for a spa or not though, as it would be nice to get the crown right as it looks possibly too heavy and too new after all these years.
Here is a picture of the inside of the case back showing the arrow logo and the actual case back. Please let me know if I am correct about the caliber of the movement (82N).
Thanks very much. I know that is what the serial number look-up says and if you say so I trust you but here at this link in the archives page Friedrich Wagener makes a distinction between the Calibre 82 and the 82N and gives a serial number range. Is there a physical difference between the 82 and the 82N? I am sure it doesn't make much difference I am just curious since I went to the archives page.
c.82 1920 SN 744701 - 745300 .................754901 - 755500 1928 SN 874601 - 875200............1800 Units
c.82N 1920 SN 755501 - 756100 .............600 Units
...which you were a part of, which is probably as good an answer as there can be to the 82/82N question...which is that nobody really knows and nobody really cares.
Thanks again. This has been very helpful. What a great forum. I hope I will be back to share more finds.
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In my list the 755'764 als a c.82 17p (what it really is, jewel on the center wheel) The c.82N was much later (2 or 3 series of 600 between 925'000 and 935'000)
The c.82N (and the c.82) is very close to the c.83.
The difference between them where not clear (Have to check the images first). The c.82N could be a prototype serie of the c.83.
Most of the c.82 can be found in cresarrow cases.
Some documents indicate it has a flat balance spring, but this one has a Breguet spring.
the c.82
the c.83 (16 jewels version)
Watches show the time flow, time to watch the watch show.
Can anybody tell me if my speculation about the watch is correct and possibly give me any further information.
Thanks
JohnC
JohnCote
Watch Hound
Last edited: 8 March, 2013 - 03:58
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com
Yes it is a cresarrow case with the arrow mark inside. I will take a photo of the inside of the case back tomorrow and post it.
JohnC
JohnCote
Watch Hound
Last edited: 8 March, 2013 - 03:58
Cheers Greg Chalk
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UK Greg, I think you are correct about the crown.
JohnCote
Watch Hound
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com
Thanks very much. I know that is what the serial number look-up says and if you say so I trust you but here at this link in the archives page Friedrich Wagener makes a distinction between the Calibre 82 and the 82N and gives a serial number range. Is there a physical difference between the 82 and the 82N? I am sure it doesn't make much difference I am just curious since I went to the archives page.
c.82
1920 SN 744701 - 745300
.................754901 - 755500
1928 SN 874601 - 875200............1800 Units
c.82N
1920 SN 755501 - 756100 .............600 Units
Here is the link:
VIEW ARCHIVE POST
JohnCote
Watch Hound
Last edited: 8 March, 2013 - 15:39
I just found this thread...
CLICK HERE
...which you were a part of, which is probably as good an answer as there can be to the 82/82N question...which is that nobody really knows and nobody really cares.
Thanks again. This has been very helpful. What a great forum. I hope I will be back to share more finds.
JohnCote
Watch Hound
Last edited: 8 March, 2013 - 15:41
The c.82N was much later (2 or 3 series of 600 between 925'000 and 935'000)
The c.82N (and the c.82) is very close to the c.83.
The difference between them where not clear (Have to check the images first).
The c.82N could be a prototype serie of the c.83.
Most of the c.82 can be found in cresarrow cases.
Some documents indicate it has a flat balance spring, but this one has a Breguet spring.
the c.82
the c.83 (16 jewels version)
Watches show the time flow, time to watch the watch show.
Last edited: 23 May, 2013 - 23:51
Regards, Michael
mfriedberg@iwcforum.com