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Watches show the time flow, time to watch the watch show.
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alwaysiwc Wrote:ARCHY,From your answers I conclude that you are not amused by my comment.I respect your opinion and praise you that you did not spill these important movements for ever. But unfortunately , I cannnot change my mind on how you deal with these movements. Of course I understand that the cases of these original Pallwebers are lost for ever. It is the old story of selling gold in difficult times. I recognise the story ever and ever again. What strikes me is the innocence of so many people who build a top IWC pocket watch movement in a worthless case and try to sell it for an immaculate price. Apparently you do not as you state!The real experts on these rare Pallweber movements know that the bare movements only, are collectors items, and although the market for these is limited, such movemements would be purchased immediately by certain IWC collectors, including me. I understand that such collectors (and me) are no representing the actual market.But also the IWC Pocket Watch collectors I am referring to , would never, NEVER, build a precious movement into a wrist watch case. Even if you say that you are not a dealer and that you will not sell your watches, I can understand those dealers who will sell and make a profit.As Clepsydra stated, these historical IWC Pallweber movements are pocket watch movements. As a deep respect for the company which made them, IWC , they should be pocket watch movements for ever : that is what they deserve...As pocket watches they have been described in the literature. As pocket watches they will be part of IWC's history. Do not degrade them to toys!Kind regards,Adrian,(alwaysiwc).
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JimmyR Wrote:Seeing these movements make the mind boggle, my watchmaker Holger is still not satisfied with the way one of my Pallwebers is running, but I have so much confidence in him, I'm sure he'll sort out the problem!A great thread, by the way ;-)Best RegardsJimmy
Time is a river without banks. Marc Chagall.
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Archy Wrote:I decided to leave cause I really don't want to insulte or harm anyone that I have shown some recased movements, so if I made a mistake by taking part in this discuss I feel sorrow about it.
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Michael Friedberg Wrote in reply to:Archy Wrote:I decided to leave cause I really don't want to insulte or harm anyone that I have shown some recased movements, so if I made a mistake by taking part in this discuss I feel sorrow about it.It would be unfortunate if you left. Part of the Internet is that it promotes free dialogue --I will "moderate" if something crosses the line as, say, a personal insult, but beyond that there can be divergent opinions.One of the great IWC pocket watch collectors, the late Fritz Wagener, showed here some pocket watch movements that he recased as pocket watches to save them. I objected even to that in-authenticity, and he replied, more or less "It's just like they were made --a customer picked out a movement and then had the watch cased at the dealer". To each his own --it is just a hobby (even for those who are what I call "amateur scholars"), and none of us should take all this too seriously. We are not Museum curators nor high priests.So --relax, and stick around. I value what you have to say and show.
Ralph Ehrismann Wrote:Great finally, there is a Pallweber I. The most interesting part is the section of the wheel with the missing teeth.The main differences of Pallweber I, II & III is the way, the energy is transported to the disc with the numbers.Pallweber I: A star (5 spikes) at the end of the stem on the dial sidePallweber II: An small wheel, visible on the wheel side on the same stem as the wheel with the missing teeth and an intermediate wheel in the dial sidePallweber III: A bigger while with 5 pins on the wheel side (normal version)In addition Pallweber III has a disc with 10 positions (number 0-5 and again 0-5) with teeth on the edge for the 10 minutes indication.Pallweber I & II have a hexagonal plate for the 10 min indication with 6 Positions (0-5)A very nice find, congratulation! (I searching since years for a Pallweber I)Ralph